●●●命例研究___菩提無樹





國曆： 61 年 12 月 19 日 午 時生 性別： 男 性


農曆： 61 年 11 月 14 日 午 時生 虛歲： 30 歲





庚 甲 壬 壬


午 申 子 子





●研究方式___互動式,大家一起來,





●研究層面___無所不談


▲從 不同角度,各方面去探討,包括 ...........


佛學,心理學,神煞學,氣勢學,排列組合學,格局,用神,外加姓名方位學,








▲佛學,心理學,也可用來論命,好像有點奇怪,


請看下文,,,,...


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緣起甚深___ coolwind (本站元老)


張貼日期 12/10/01 03:14 PM


複雜的問題,何以三言兩語,就可以道盡的,


窮極一生,還是只能摸到邊邊而已,


所有的人事時地物,都與命運有關,大小而已,


可以推論命運的工具,何只我們目前看到的工具呢.心理學也可以呀!


只是工具不同,效果廣度不同而已.


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庚 甲 壬 壬

午 申 子 子



●格局 是由八字的(排列組合)造成 (氣勢) 的學術,



本造八字到底是什麼格局,有何氣勢,



○ ○ 壬 壬

○ 申 子 子





庚 甲 ○ ○

午 ○ ○ ○





就先談這兩組好了,



菩提無樹 大大

這兩組,您有何看法?

小的看過大大之命局.



水寒,木冷,金凍.水勢過猛.母旺子虛.

忌庚透緊克甲木.

忌庚,申使水勢更烈.

忌庚得祿於申.又忌申助水勢.

更忌局中無土.不能制水栽木.

局中只得一午火暖局.

忌申半合子反來克午.



相信格局難以言貴.但命好不如運好.

甲寅運能起幫身之功.運程不俗.

乙卯仍能生旺局中午火.亦算不錯.

丙辰火不通根兼合水局.難免阻力重重.

反而丁巳,戊午大器晚成.



以上只是小的意見.若有得罪之處,敬請見諒.

這命格有可能是從格,不以正論???????

這命格有可能是棄命從水

印星申金受午火所制，不能從水。

○ ○ 壬 壬

○ 申 子 子

...金水汪洋













庚 甲 ○ ○

午 ○ ○ ○

...甲木無根

剋盡甲木

hi: : 菩提無樹



After looking at your 8 words, the following is my imagination. Don't take it too seriously. If I offend you for some reasons, please accept my apology in advance.



The reason why I want to join this discussion:

1. You were born in the same day with me in the lunar calendar, though not in the same year. I was born in December 22 1969, 1-3 am



2. You were born in the same day with my wife in the solar calendar, thought not in the same year. She was born in December 19, 1970, 1-3 am.



3. What a coincidence !! May be we can begin to establish the great brotherhood from now on if you don't mind.



4. We can celebrate birthday together every year.



5. You and me share very similar 8 words structure and Dou-su though they are running in opposite direction.



~~~~enough reasons to support? ^-^









Here is my imagination of your 8 words



During the cold winter, a tree stand lonely by the river or by the lake. The river or the lake may be frozen. This tree has been absorbing water for a long time and is ready to contribute himself to those people who may need its help.



By way of cutting some branches from this lonely tree or picking up some twigs or leaves from the ground, people or creatures will feel warm by setting up the fire. However, the tree did not get enough soil to absorb the nutrition. This can be a problem for this

lonely tree to keep on growing. And people may not forever enjoy the warmth coming from from the lonely tree. Due to the insufficient soil and way too much water, this lonely is in great risk of falling down in any moment. Other than giving warmth to people, the lonely tree certainly can be used for other purposes. Can we image ?





The imagination mainly comes from my daily life. I am living a place where a lot of trees can be found by the lakes or creeks. And during the winter, the frigid weather will freeze the lakes. Not only skiing on lakes, we can even go ice fishing on them.



It also comes from my frequent visiting to the forest even during the winter.





Certainly, it also comes from my limited knowledge in 8 words theory and basic concepts in science.





What should you do to prevent this lonely tree from falling down and make it even stonger ? That is a life time lesson. Deforestation is a serious problem nowaday. It is not only your problem but all of us are on the same boat.







Believe it or not , to respond Master Kwei Ku Tzu's suggestion of discussing your 8 words in buddhism, I even come out the idea from where to draw buddhism sutra.





I believe a person as knowledgeable as you are will find the way out.



Good luck and hopefully hearing from you soon





Tainan Boy, a tree and flower lover.

哇..............



都是英文,我哪看得懂!!??



誰來幫我翻譯阿???????????????







After looking at your 8 words, the following is my imagination. Don't take it too seriously. If I offend you for some reasons, please accept my apology in advance.



The reason why I want to join this discussion:

1. You were born in the same day with me in the lunar calendar, though not in the same year. I was born in December 22 1969, 1-3 am



2. You were born in the same day with my wife in the solar calendar, thought not in the same year. She was born in December 19, 1970, 1-3 am.



3. What a coincidence !! May be we can begin to establish the great brotherhood from now on if you don't mind.



4. We can celebrate birthday together every year.



5. You and me share very similar 8 words structure and Dou-su though they are running in opposite direction.



~~~~enough reasons to support? ^-^









Here is my imagination of your 8 words



During the cold winter, a tree stand lonely by the river or by the lake. The river or the lake may be frozen. This tree has been absorbing water for a long time and is ready to contribute himself to those people who may need its help.



By way of cutting some branches from this lonely tree or picking up some twigs or leaves from the ground, people or creatures will feel warm by setting up the fire. However, the tree did not get enough soil to absorb the nutrition. This can be a problem for this

lonely tree to keep on growing. And people may not forever enjoy the warmth coming from from the lonely tree. Due to the insufficient soil and way too much water, this lonely is in great risk of falling down in any moment. Other than giving warmth to people, the lonely tree certainly can be used for other purposes. Can we image ?





The imagination mainly comes from my daily life. I am living a place where a lot of trees can be found by the lakes or creeks. And during the winter, the frigid weather will freeze the lakes. Not only skiing on lakes, we can even go ice fishing on them.



It also comes from my frequent visiting to the forest even during the winter.





Certainly, it also comes from my limited knowledge in 8 words theory and basic concepts in science.





What should you do to prevent this lonely tree from falling down and make it even stonger ? That is a life time lesson. Deforestation is a serious problem nowaday. It is not only your problem but all of us are on the same boat.







Believe it or not , to respond Master Kwei Ku Tzu's suggestion of discussing your 8 words in buddhism, I even come out the idea from where to draw buddhism sutra.





I believe a person as knowledgeable as you are will find the way out.



Good luck and hopefully hearing from you soon





Tainan Boy, a tree and flower lover.

I know this can be a problem. I will try to learn Chinese typing and post in Chinese. Currently, my chinese typing speed is as low as turtle. Sorry for that.



Tainan boy

翻譯的不好之處忘諒解.

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當看完你的八字, 我得出以下我的論點.. 請不要太過認為此論嚴重. 如果我有得罪的地方, 請多多包含..(請容我在此為你先道歉)



以下是我為何會加入此討論:



1. 你的出生日跟我的農曆出生日相同, 不過不是同年. 我出生於1969年12月22日,凌晨1-3點



2. 你的出生日跟我的太太的西歷出生日(SOLAR..陽曆?)相同, 不過也不同年. 她是出生於1970年12月19日, 凌晨1-3點.



3. 真是巧!!! 可能因為這樣我們可以開始做很好的朋友..如果你不介意的話..



4.我們每年都可以一起慶祝生日



5. 你我都有頗為相同的八字結構, 斗數的話確是走相反的方向..



~~~~應該有充足的理由來加入討論吧? ^-^





這是我對你八字的結論:



在寒冷的同天裡, 一棵樹孤獨的站立在河或者湖邊. 而這條河或者這個湖可能已經結冰.

這棵樹已經長時間的吸收湖/河水, 且已經準備好貢獻他自己去幫助那些需要幫助的人.



如果把這棵孤獨樹的一些枝桿砍去, 或者收集一些細支或者地上的樹葉, 用來生火, 那些人或者動物,會因而覺得暖和...不過,這棵樹沒有足夠的土壤來吸收營養. 這是會造成這棵孤獨的樹無法繼續成長的原因. 而那些人或許不會享受從這棵樹來得溫暖. 因為土不夠, 水太旺, 這棵孤獨的樹有著隨時倒下的危險. 除了為人提供溫暖之外, 這棵孤獨的樹必然還有其他的功效. 我們可以想像得到..



我的結論是來自我的日常生活. 我住在一個擁有很多樹木生長在湖邊的地方. 而當冬天的時候, 寒冷的天氣會讓湖水結冰. 我們不但可以在湖上滑冰, 而且我們還可以常常在冰上釣魚呢.



這個結論也是因我常常在冬天到樹林的而論出



當然, 這個結論也是從我有限的八字命理,以及科學基礎而來的.



你可以如何阻止這棵孤獨的樹倒下而且讓他更加強壯呢? 那是生命中的課程. 而且嚴重砍伐樹木是現今的社會問題. 不只是你自身的問題, 而是我們大家的問題因為我們再同一條船上...



不知道你相信與否, 根據葵谷子大大對你八字的佛教建議, 我也從佛經裡來論..



我相信以你對命理的了解, 你可以幫自身找到出路.



祝福你, 也希望可以很快的到你的回應



台南男生, 愛花草樹木之人..

大大安好..



感謝您熱心幫我翻譯





您的八字論法我好像曾在哪裡看過---類似(理氣借象)篇中的論法





所謂無巧不成書,一切都是緣分,如您不嫌棄的話,我當然願意和您同慶生日







祝法喜充滿

無樹兄:

取個木, 火, 土的名或許好.

如"圭"[玉],"桂","煜","林","森","華","炳"等等.

再加上廣修善行, 自助天助!



"菩提無樹"改"菩提林樹", 比劫幫身! ^^

Thanks for translation. You did a good job.



Tainan boy

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"菩提無樹"改"菩提林樹", 比劫幫身!

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庚 甲 壬 壬

午 申 子 子



●本造無財,比劫有形



▲比劫幫身,原本是很好的構想,喜用之處,

無柰比劫奪財,

無財可奪之時,比劫形同路人,

見死不救



菩提樹,菩提樹,菩提樹,

本來就有樹,到處惹塵埃,



▲菩提本無樹,明鏡亦非台

菩提樹,取其不見之形===>菩提(無)樹

====>無樹勝有樹,



●重點是(不見之形),

此處比劫之形是來自於申子引出的辰嗎？



三個問題：



1。 子午衝是否會減弱其氣勢？比如不考慮盤中別的影響，引出辰氣的強弱是否為

午申子子 〉申子子午 〉申子午子？



2。 只要三缺一就可以考慮暗引暗拱嗎？有沒有別的先決條件？



3。 次序要緊嗎？一般所說的申子辰，亥卯未，寅午戌，巳酉丑，三個一組的排列順序只是習慣說法呢，還是有道理在裏面？ i.e., 辰子能否引出申？力量比申子->辰弱嗎？



呵呵，我總是一次問題多多，不利於灌水大業... *_^

Dear 癸谷子:



▲比劫幫身,原本是很好的構想,喜用之處,

無柰比劫奪財,

無財可奪之時,比劫形同路人,

見死不救

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From usage:

1.A tree can not be made into a ship or a raft.

2.With a lot of trees, can we build a big ship or a raft after cutting them down ? Then, people will enjoy the benefit that the ship or raft bring in.



But the point is:



Are 菩提樹 willing to be cut? In this case: Metal. ( self control, self manage)



We can only manage other people after we can manage ourself.



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Question:



1. The "ding" fire in the "wu" fire + Ren water



======> become wood ? and When ?







2. "Sen metal + Tzu water

======> will bring in Chen earth ?===> then make the water more stable ( in stead of running everywhere ====> Waste of the wisdom



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Sorry, still looking for typing tools.







Tainan boy

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. The "ding" fire in the "wu" fire + Ren water

======> become wood ? and When ?

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But, position wise, aren't they too far? Can they interact?　How Strong?

國曆：  61 年   12 月 19 日   午 時生                     性別：          男 性 

農曆：  61 年   11 月 14 日   午 時生                     虛歲：          30 歲 

                                                                                

八字：     時          日          月          年         大運：  7  ~ 16  癸丑 

           柱          柱          柱          柱                 17 ~ 26  甲寅 

           ：          ：          ：          ：                 27 ~ 36  乙卯 

           七                      偏          偏                 37 ~ 46  丙辰 

           殺                      印          印                 47 ~ 56  丁巳 

           庚          甲          壬          壬                 57 ~ 66  戊午 

           午          申          子          子                 67 ~ 76  己未 

           己丁      戊壬庚          癸          癸               77 ~ 86  庚申 

           正傷      偏偏七          正          正               87 ~ 96  辛酉 

           財官      財印殺          印          印                             

                                                                                

大運：     87      77      67      57      47      37      27      17       7   

           正      七      正      偏      傷      食      劫      比      正   

           官      殺      財      財      官      神      財      肩      印   

           辛      庚      己      戊      丁      丙      乙      甲      癸   

           酉      申      未      午      巳      辰      卯      寅      丑   

             辛  戊壬庚  乙丁己    己丁  庚戊丙  癸乙戊      乙  戊丙甲  辛癸己 

             正  偏偏七  劫傷正    正傷  七偏食  正劫偏      劫  偏食比  正正正 

             官  財印殺  財官財    財官  殺財神  印財財      財  財神肩  官印財 

                                                                                

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