#376094 - 2004-06-11 06:37:21
Re: 請教如何以占星定出人生方向
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見龍在田
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註冊: 2003-02-14
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我是一位占星的初學者，前些日子看到某篇文章提到上昇宮位的守護星，其所落在的宮位便
是此人一生的重點，
I have found that to be true, the chart ruler and its placement are important in my chart.
就我而言，上昇在雙子，守護星為水星，落於第五宮，為愛情、家庭等
情感上的事情，
I plugged your data into astro.com and get Taurus rising(金牛上昇) instead. Can you confirm your birthtime, that Taiwan was/was not using daylight saving (日光節約時間) during your birth?
但同時我亦是日水木土冥皆在第五宮，並有如月沖土等不利相位。
就個人自身感覺，在對於愛情的確多少會有響往，但一遇到心儀的女生時，便又覺得別人更
適合她而努力撮合他們，到最後喜歡的女生都變成自己的好朋友，雖替她們高興，卻有時亦
為自己傷悲。
Saturn in the 5th, I can relate to that. But I think the restriction in love you are talking about is self-imposed. So, you can change it for the better for sure. You'll find out in your first Saturn return or be forced to find out.
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#376095 - 2004-06-11 11:38:23
Re: 請教如何以占星定出人生方向
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見龍在田
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註冊: 2004-01-20
文章數: 33
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我是一位占星的初學者，前些日子看到某篇文章提到上昇宮位的守護星，其所落在的宮位便
是此人一生的重點，
I have found that to be true, the chart ruler and its placement are important in my chart.
嗯~這也是我這篇標題要說的，當人知道自己人生的重點及所重視的東西後，該如何利用這些資訊，走出屬於自己的人生(方向)。
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I plugged your data into astro.com and get Taurus rising(金牛上昇) instead. Can you confirm your birthtime, that Taiwan was/was not using daylight saving (日光節約時間) during your birth?
我的出生時間是西元1980/09/24 21:15，這期間臺灣並無實施日光節約時間，而我出生地點是臺灣省台中市120°40' East 24°10' North
我試過很多的占星排盤，都是上昇雙子，所以上昇金牛的部份，我就不了解囉~~
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Saturn in the 5th, I can relate to that. But I think the restriction in love you are talking about is self-imposed. So, you can change it for the better for sure. You'll find out in your first Saturn return or be forced to find out.
Saturn return??土星返照，這是什麼時候啊??要如何去看呢?
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#376096 - 2004-06-12 03:55:54
Re: 請教如何以占星定出人生方向
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見龍在田
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註冊: 2003-02-14
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I double-checked with astro.com and I think they probably misused the daylight saving time in your case. You are in Taiwan - you probably know better than them.
The first Saturn return happens when you are around 29. And it's in your 5th house, so maybe you know how to release the restrictions you are feeling then. Btw, Jupiter will be entering your 5th house in a few months and stay there for a year. You should make good use of it. Don't deny yourself the love opportunities when they present themselves. So when your Aries Moon says go ahead, don't let the Libra Saturn pull you back by hestitating and cost you the chance. You have 4 planets in Libra. I think it makes you overthink a situation sometimes when you should just let the Aries moon take control.
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#376097 - 2004-06-12 15:31:35
Re: 請教如何以占星定出人生方向
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見龍在田
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註冊: 2004-01-20
文章數: 33
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The first Saturn return happens when you are around 29. And it's in your 5th house, so maybe you know how to release the restrictions you are feeling then.
所以我的這種心態會到29歲之後，才會有所改變囉??這倒令我好奇，就大部份的情況而言，一個人若會改變自己的個性，大都是遭遇某種變化，否則到而立之年，還能改變個性就真的是很不簡單；雖然我很想問詳細情況是如何，不過考慮自身在占星上還處於幼幼期，所以這個問題就先按下囉~~
不過有點小疑惑，依您所言，改變心態應該是土星返照應該主因，那麼土星返照所在宮位，會是什麼意義呢？(因提到And it's in your 5th house....所以才會有這個看起來有點笨的問題)
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Btw, Jupiter will be entering your 5th house in a few months and stay there for a year.......
我若沒記錯，木星不管是中西洋都認為它是顆吉星；呵.....我有個很初學的問題，本命的星與運程上的星有什麼不同呢?如我本命木星亦是在第五宮，而現木星又走入第五宮，是否有加強的作用呢？那假若本命木星與流年木星(不知占星如何稱呼~~  )形成對刑或沖的角度會有什麼影響呢??
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So when your Aries Moon says go ahead...........
這段大概是我個性上最畫龍點晴的一部份了，我大部份時候都是想得太多，只有某些情況下，才會有牧羊的那種衝勁出現；我也很好奇，我的太陽與月亮剛好是對沖的相位，這種情形所造成個性上的矛盾外，還可以如何去解釋呢？跟宮位有關嗎？還是所在的星座呢？
另外，還有個比較私心的問題，我目前在一家公司上班，不過應該會在近期離職(還沒跟公司說)，自己打算回家鄉去做SOHO，不知在做SOHO上，以占星而言，有什麼要注意的地方呢？甚至我在考慮是要自己做，還是找人合作。
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#376098 - 2004-06-14 03:20:54
Re: 請教如何以占星定出人生方向
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見龍在田
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註冊: 2003-02-14
文章數: 92
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所以我的這種心態會到29歲之後，才會有所改變囉??這倒令我好奇，就大部份的情況而言，一個人若會改變自己的個性，大都是遭遇某種變化，否則到而立之年，還能改變個性就真的是很不簡單；雖然我很想問詳細情況是如何，不過考慮自身在占星上還處於幼幼期，所以這個問題就先按下囉~~
不過有點小疑惑，依您所言，改變心態應該是土星返照應該主因，那麼土星返照所在宮位，會是什麼意義呢？(因提到And it's in your 5th house....所以才會有這個看起來有點笨的問題)
A Saturn return will force you to reassess your life if it's been derailed. And usually people's upbringings lead them to conform to the society or their parents/peers' expectations and when they find out that that's not who they are, there will be a crisis. They are also given a chance to right the course. And Saturn's being in your 5th house shows that you have issues to work with related to that area, whether it's creativity or love or child-related. Most astrology literature will say a saturn return usually coincides with a marriage, a job change, a relocation, or basically a changed you. I'm having my first Saturn return (the exact hit) in the 5th house in the next few days. I can't quite put my finger on what exactly the change is for me yet although I'm starting to see its effects. I'll let you know when I see it more clearly in my own experience.
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我若沒記錯，木星不管是中西洋都認為它是顆吉星；呵.....我有個很初學的問題，本命的星與運程上的星有什麼不同呢?如我本命木星亦是在第五宮，而現木星又走入第五宮，是否有加強的作用呢？那假若本命木星與流年木星(不知占星如何稱呼~~ )形成對刑或沖的角度會有什麼影響呢??
Jupiter brings opportunities. It also makes you more optimistic in the area of the house it passes. Jupiter rules your 7th house. So, maybe it'll bring you a significant relationship when it transits your 5th house and conjuncts a few planets on its way. But knowing that transit Saturn follows Jupiter close, so what you do then has pretty fast consequences, when Saturn will transit your 5th house in about 4 years.
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這段大概是我個性上最畫龍點晴的一部份了，我大部份時候都是想得太多，只有某些情況下，才會有牧羊的那種衝勁出現；我也很好奇，我的太陽與月亮剛好是對沖的相位，這種情形所造成個性上的矛盾外，還可以如何去解釋呢？跟宮位有關嗎？還是所在的星座呢？
The Aries moon is a singleton, so I think it can be reasonably strong when it needs to be. The houses indicate where the contradition is likely to display.
Libra is a highly relating sign, meaning it tries to get along with everyone, enjoys being in a relationship. And your Libran planets happen to be in the 5th and affects the 5th/11th axis, you just need to be with friends/lovers to feel happy.
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另外，還有個比較私心的問題，我目前在一家公司上班，不過應該會在近期離職(還沒跟公司說)，自己打算回家鄉去做SOHO，不知在做SOHO上，以占星而言，有什麼要注意的地方呢？甚至我在考慮是要自己做，還是找人合作。
You'll probably need a partner, who is a take-charge type of person who can make decisions. You already have quite a bit of air. A fire/earth person may be good for you. More fire than earth - you may not work well with someone with too much earth. And with earth, I think Virgo is better than Taurus or Capricorn, esp. if the person has a planet that conjoins your Virgo Jupiter.
編輯者： woi (2004-06-14 04:36:25)
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#376100 - 2004-06-18 03:56:19
Re: 請教如何以占星定出人生方向
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見龍在田
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註冊: 2003-02-14
文章數: 92
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You're welcome.
I see that you'll have a transit Saturn conjunct natal Jupiter aspect soon, and I just had my transit Saturn square natal Jupiter. The description offered by Robert Hand is spot-on. You can get it for free at astro.com - Personal Daily Horoscope. I felt it even more than the Saturn return which is happening around the same time. So, I want to share it with you here.
Saturn Square Jupiter
A current challenge ***
Valid during many months: During this time your opportunities may be curtailed and your freedom of action may be quite limited. Restrictions seem to come from nowhere, and you may have to work very hard just to maintain your accustomed level, let alone improve it. This period can be quite unfavorable financially, especially if you have not been very careful in recent years. It tests how well you have put your life together in almost every area, but especially in matters related to finances, business and your profession. You may discover that many aspects of your life cannot withstand real adversity.
Approximately seven years ago, many new activities began in your life. Now they are being tested to see whether they have any real importance in your life. Anything that does not withstand this test should be abandoned or substantially changed. It will be possible to hold on to something that clearly does not work, in spite of opposition from others and restrictions from your surroundings. And if you do that, after this time, it may appear to be working out all right. But that is only because the current challenge is over. However, in about seven years anything you have clung to will be tested again and will cause far more trouble than it does now. In other words, if something isn't working now, let it go!
Typically this influence produces extreme restlessness. Your drive for freedom is relentlessly curbed by the restrictions of this influence, and you feel very strongly that you must break out of these restrictions. You may experience job or residence changes and the breakup of personal relationships that seem to interfere unduly with your freedom. However these changes are usually just hasty reactions to this influence. You would be much better off to calmly evaluate what is and isn't working in your life and to consciously eliminate the elements that do not work. Don't just react blindly because of frustration.
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