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#1236819 - 2009-08-29 02:24:27 測運勢
一鸣 離線
亢龍有悔
註冊: 2009-06-28
文章數: 724
at Aug 29 10:19:56 GMT+0800 2009
一週運勢﹝由占卜的明日算起﹞

Question:直接占卜,並沒有輸入問題

『牌陣名稱』:一週運勢﹝由占卜的明日算起﹞
◎使用【偉特牌普及版】占卜◎
◎使用78張占卜◎
◎底牌是【寶劍5】【正位置↑】◎
◎不使用象徵指示牌◎
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1==第一天運勢
【隱者】【逆位置↓】
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2==第二天運勢
【金幣國王】【逆位置↓】
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3==第三天運勢
【星】【逆位置↓】
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4==第四天運勢
【聖杯國王】【正位置↑】
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5==第五天運勢
【惡魔】【正位置↑】
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6==第六天運勢
【金幣ACE】【正位置↑】
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7==第七天運勢
【寶劍8】【正位置↑】
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●●●統計表●●●
正位4張   逆位3張
大牌3張
寶劍1張
權杖0張
聖杯1張
金幣2張
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#1236822 - 2009-08-29 02:31:05 Re: 測運勢 [Re: 一鸣]
一鸣 離線
亢龍有悔
註冊: 2009-06-28
文章數: 724
張貼者: 一鸣

第一天運勢
【隱者】【逆位置↓】



2009年8月30日

In the reverse position

In the reversed (upside-down) position, the Hermit loses his lantern,
and therefore also loses sight of what is before him.
It can signify a lack of wisdom, logic, or intelligence.
Maybe the querent is simply wrong about something that they deeply believe in?
Maybe we actually need the guidance, wisdom and advice of others more than we thought?

張貼者: 一鸣

第二天運勢
【金幣國王】【逆位置↓】





2009年8月31日

Dignified or Reversed - A person who is easily bought, dull,
very materialistic and mercenary.
He is blind to beauty and hates change as he finds it hard to adapt.
He treads a well worn path even if it leads nowhere.

張貼者: 一鸣


第三天運勢
【星】【逆位置↓】




2009年9月1日

Reversed card meanings

arrogance,haughtiness,impotence










編輯者: 一鸣 (2009-08-29 03:30:21)
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#1236830 - 2009-08-29 03:31:11 Re: 測運勢 [Re: 一鸣]
一鸣 離線
亢龍有悔
註冊: 2009-06-28
文章數: 724
張貼者: 一鸣

4==第四天運勢
【聖杯國王】【正位置↑】



2009年9月2日

Upright - A person who commands respect, but not love. A man of business or law, considerate and responsible. He is kind but ambitious and a skilled negotiator. He is a born manipulator, someone who has arrived in a position of power by the use of brain as opposed to brawn. He avoids taking people into his confidence and often works in secret or behind the scenes. He is a seeker of power, with hidden motives, often distrusted or feared by those around him.


張貼者: 一鸣

第五天運勢
【惡魔】【正位置↑】





2009年9月3日
Money matters. Feeling the burden of the material side of life. Desire for physical and material things. Feeling of frustration and oppression. A tendency to collect and hoard money and material objects. Lust. Sexual obsession. The querent's knowledge of his or her own needs, wants and desires. Security versus creative or spiritual fulfillment.


張貼者: 一鸣

第六天運勢
【金幣ACE】【正位置↑】




2009年9月4日
Financial change for the better, material comfort, physical well being, wealth,
possessions and an appreciation of the good things in life.
The essence and luxury of the Element of Earth.



張貼者: 一鸣

第七天運勢
【寶劍8】【正位置↑】


2009年9月5日
Total and complete change of mind. In its purest form the ace is symbolic
of strongly constituted authority, and pursuit of ultimate truth.
Triumph, victory and success, a rebirth and a new beginning.



編輯者: 一鸣 (2009-08-29 05:04:47)
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#1237286 - 2009-08-30 15:30:06 Re: 測運勢 [Re: 一鸣]
一鸣 離線
亢龍有悔
註冊: 2009-06-28
文章數: 724
at Aug 29 10:19:56 GMT+0800 2009
一週運勢﹝由占卜的明日算起﹞

1==第一天運勢(2009年8月30日)

【隱者】【逆位置↓】

===>智者難尋


編輯者: 一鸣 (2009-08-30 15:55:29)
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#1237304 - 2009-08-30 17:14:55 Re: 測運勢 [Re: 一鸣]
一鸣 離線
亢龍有悔
註冊: 2009-06-28
文章數: 724
第七天運勢
【寶劍8】【正位置↑】


2009年9月5日


Meanings
Emotional upheaval. Feeling trapped, bound. Don't make a decision right now.
Go within (blindfold).The castle is in the background - safety is within reach.
At the pinnacle of a scary situation. Choices are available.

Her own thoughts and ideas are restrictive.
She has too many ideas running through her head.
The best is for her to wait for the sun to come from behind the cloud....
there is not much she can do right now except wait...
and intellectually rescue herself.
She mustn't get into the mind game of wanting to be rescued.
She must take back her power and responsibility and open her eyes,
then she will realize that the path forward is clear.

The Eight of Swords predicts problems in the situation.
Your interests will be opposed by other people.
You may be restricted as a result of the obstacles
which are placed in the path toward your goals.
Want to get out of an oppressive situation or change your present line of work.
The problem is not with you but with others.
They are the ones who are not coming through,
living up to their end, or causing misfortune.
But even though the problems are great, they can still be overcome.

The Eight of Swords portrays a dilemma much like that experienced in the Two of Swords.
We are again faced with the difficulty of a painful decision and we are at an impasse,
uncertain which way to go.
However, unlike the Two in which the choice is forced upon us,
the decision in the Eight is the result of our own actions.
This card follows naturally upon the Seven of Swords which is a card of duplicity.
If we use deception for our gain,
ultimately we will be faced with the difficulty of dealing with that deception;
for all that is hidden must finally come to light. However,
despite the fact that we have "boxed ourselves into a corner,"
there is way out.
The solution is simply to deal with the situation
in the most direct yet tactful manner possible,
and face our choice with inner strength.
We must be aware of the consequences of our actions
in all aspects of life and if we are able to
deal honestly with ourselves and others,
we won't find ourselves in this kind of situation.
However, if we are here already,
there is still the possibility of freedom
from the bondage of our own fears and uncertainties.
If you encounter the Eight of Swords in a reading,
it is time to be honest with yourself and others
in order to be free of the burden of fear or guilt.

The woman on the Eight of Swords is lost and alone.
She can't see because she is blindfolded.
She can't reach out because she is bound.
She can't move freely because she is caught in a prison of swords.
It seems she has wandered far from home - her place of security far away on the hill.
How can she get back? She doesn't even know which way to go.
The Eight of Swords stands for those times when we feel lost,
confused and powerless. Help and relief seems very far away.

Sometimes we feel restricted by circumstances. We wake up one day in an impossible situation.
A dead end job. A troubled relationship. Mountains of debt.
How did this happen?
We have no idea. Even little problems can make us feel trapped.
There just doesn't seem to be a way out.
Sometimes life seems fine - on the surface. "I have everything I want.
I should be happy,so what's the problem?"
We just don't know. We're confused and unsure.

You are heading toward (or already in) a situation in which you will feel a lack of
freedom and choice. Such situations are tricky because the more you get into them,
the more restricted you feel. At each step, your options seem to
narrow until you feel completely stuck. When you see this card,
remember that you do have choices,and you do have power.

No matter how trapped you feel,
you can find a way out if you believe it is possible.
The young girl in the picture could free herself.
She could wriggle free, tear off the blindfold,
and kick down those swords. Solutions are not always easy, but they exist.
Find your clarity of thought and purpose (the Swords ideal)
and use them to take that first step toward home.

On the face of it,
this is a card about hopelessness, restriction and lack of options.
but it isn't. Not really.
If you look at the Ryder Waite deck, you see a woman,
tied from the waist up in such a way that she cannot move her arms,
and blindfolded. She stands between eight swords--
and there is a featureless background.
It would seem that she can't go anywhere--
that she is imprisoned. However, keep in mind that this deck,
as did many of the older decks,
portrayed the negative meaning and implied the positive.
So, let's consider our tied up lady. First of all--
there is nothing in front of her.
She could just walk straight ahead,
if she so chose--blindfold or not.
But she does not choose to do so.
She seems to be waiting for rescue.

Let's consider the nature of the Swords.
They represent the mental world -
our conscious minds and what they do and how they work.
In terms of our thought process, this is typical of
the times when we think we're safe,
but in fact we're trapped, without any options,
and must depend on the kindness of others.
But is that ever the case? We always have options,
but those options may or may not be acceptable to us.
This is fine - so long as we acknowledge that we have them.
If we don't, it doesn't take us long to drift into victim mode.
And that is where our lady is at the moment.

Feeling fenced in, restricted, vulnerable. Too many ideas/no direction.
Handle difficult situations immediately,
Gossip, advice, over analytical (back and forth),
Pay attention. Problems are behind woman.
Legs are not tied; blind fold can be removed.
Find out who put you in this situation,
realize that you are not trapped,
that you are free to move. Restriction. Run of bad luck,
feelings of being trapped and powerless.
Patient effort needed to get out of situation.
Help is available if you ask. Restrictions will gradually fade.


編輯者: 一鸣 (2009-08-30 17:29:14)
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#1237435 - 2009-08-31 05:04:01 Re: 測運勢 [Re: 一鸣]
一鸣 離線
亢龍有悔
註冊: 2009-06-28
文章數: 724
at Aug 29 10:19:56 GMT+0800 2009
一週運勢﹝由占卜的明日算起﹞

2==第二天運勢
【金幣國王】【逆位置↓】

===>

本來想和老爸去高雄看世運場
有名人在高雄,不方便去了


編輯者: 一鸣 (2009-08-31 05:20:35)
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#1237784 - 2009-09-01 02:36:46 Re: 測運勢 [Re: 一鸣]
一鸣 離線
亢龍有悔
註冊: 2009-06-28
文章數: 724
張貼者: 一鸣


第三天運勢
【星】【逆位置↓】

2009年9月1日

Reversed card meanings

arrogance,haughtiness,impotence


半夜就接到男友的電話
我在臺,電話中感受到他的無力感
他工作環境都是外面人,只有10多人是中國人.


編輯者: 一鸣 (2009-09-01 03:29:30)
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#1238069 - 2009-09-01 16:33:20 Re: 測運勢 [Re: 一鸣]
一鸣 離線
亢龍有悔
註冊: 2009-06-28
文章數: 724
張貼者: 一鸣
張貼者: 一鸣

4==第四天運勢
【聖杯國王】【正位置↑】



2009年9月2日

Upright - A person who commands respect, but not love. A man of business or law, considerate and responsible. He is kind but ambitious and a skilled negotiator. He is a born manipulator, someone who has arrived in a position of power by the use of brain as opposed to brawn. He avoids taking people into his confidence and often works in secret or behind the scenes. He is a seeker of power, with hidden motives, often distrusted or feared by those around him.


張貼者: 一鸣

第五天運勢
【惡魔】【正位置↑】





2009年9月3日
Money matters. Feeling the burden of the material side of life. Desire for physical and material things. Feeling of frustration and oppression. A tendency to collect and hoard money and material objects. Lust. Sexual obsession. The querent's knowledge of his or her own needs, wants and desires. Security versus creative or spiritual fulfillment.



===>
這ニ天是很久以前,就有預定行程(會去法院).
目前這二張牌相當準.


編輯者: 一鸣 (2009-09-01 16:38:47)
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#1238832 - 2009-09-04 13:36:08 Re: 測運勢 [Re: 一鸣]
一鸣 離線
亢龍有悔
註冊: 2009-06-28
文章數: 724
張貼者: 一鸣
第六天運勢
【金幣ACE】【正位置↑】


2009年9月4日
Financial change for the better, material comfort, physical well being, wealth,
possessions and an appreciation of the good things in life.
The essence and luxury of the Element of Earth.


張貼者: 一鸣
第七天運勢
【寶劍8】【正位置↑】


2009年9月5日


Meanings
Emotional upheaval. Feeling trapped, bound. Don't make a decision right now.
Go within (blindfold).The castle is in the background - safety is within reach.
At the pinnacle of a scary situation. Choices are available.

===>
牌相當準.已回美。选择颇多。


編輯者: 一鸣 (2009-09-04 13:47:43)
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#1239336 - 2009-09-06 09:16:53 Re: 測運勢 [Re: 一鸣]
一鸣 離線
亢龍有悔
註冊: 2009-06-28
文章數: 724
到底要不要解「切牌」?
用「切牌」這張牌來解析問卜者當下的心態,是當今解牌中相當常用的手法,但是是否好用、好解,就是見仁見智的問題。然而就個人的占卜經驗而言,這種方法並不好用,對於初學者會造成解牌上的混淆與困惑。



一、從筆者一篇網路回覆文章開始談起:〈以下文章有做編排上的修飾〉

回覆 #10 運命の輪 的文章

舉個實際的例子

我就以四張戀情牌陣來做分析:

一、問卜者的心態
二、對方的心態
三、現在的狀況
四、未來的結果

接著開始提出問題:

首先,既然既有牌陣設定上,就已經包含當事人的心態〈甚至還包括對方〉,為何還要增加切牌這張來多此一舉?

其次,如果切牌和占卜結果差太多,到底要聽哪張的?

再來,到底切牌這張牌,跟牌陣中的每張牌相比,究竟是地位相等還是切牌的地位較低或較重,這些設定如果占卜之前就沒有搞清楚,解讀上極易造成混淆。

最後,關於切牌的定義,是有關於當事人的心態或看法,甚至還包括建議,而這些涵義彼此的差距其實都不小,所以這張牌的解釋最後就容易變成占卜師的自由心證,如果占卜不準就會用切牌,當作自己另一種符合問卜者詮釋狀況的工具。如果用這種方式訓練占卜,進步的幅度將相當有限,變成另一種補牌的形式。

以上所言是我認為不需要用切牌的原因,占卜的過程無外乎選用適合占卜的牌種,針對問卜者的問題選擇適當的牌陣,該放幾張就幾張,規規矩矩的解讀,不要用其他的方式或多一兩張牌,來阻礙自己占卜的練習,如此方有進步神速的可能。以上所言僅供參考。


出處網址:
http://bbs.astrology.org.tw/viewthread.php?tid=419&page=1#pid8506


二、切牌的地位與功用:

其實,切牌並不是牌陣中的任何一張牌,此外,切牌也不能當做「指定牌」〈或指示牌〉來解讀,而這張牌只能代表問卜者當下的心態,既不能論吉,亦不能斷凶,甚至把它當作牌陣中的一部分來解讀,都是一件不妥的事。那麼這張牌到底要怎麼處理?

我的看法是:直接廢棄不用即可。

我的理由是:

一、因為切牌不是「指定牌」,並不能完全代表當事人的個性,以及與問題產生緊密的連結,故如果把這張牌當作「指定牌」的功能來混合使用,在解讀上就會有非常大的偏差,畢竟「切牌」在理論上並不能與牌陣中的各牌產生連結。最後產生的結果就是切牌與牌陣「各自表述」。

二、如前文例子中所述,只要在陣位中出現與「心態」等比較心理層面的字眼,就會與切牌這張牌的定義產生重疊與矛盾,尤其牌面占卜出來的結果差異太大的時候,就會很難自圓其說。

三、我認為這是一個邏輯的問題,就是特別用一張牌來看問卜者的心態,能產生多大的正面作用?事實上某些相似的問題,問卜者的心態都大同小異,都會有悲觀和樂觀的一面,所以多多少少都會準,但是占卜的最重要目的,是在於為當事人解決重要的問題,知道問卜者當下的心態其實根本毫無意義;而且就算想知道類似的結果,牌陣中就可以看出端倪。


三、結論:

當然,我們並不乏見到「切牌」的影子,我也相信某些問卜者疑惑為何占卜者都要「偷看」一下底牌?然後如果我們抽牌抽到「底牌」,又會產生什麼樣的影響?此外,為何切牌到最後才要亮相或是選擇不亮相,這種種的疑問,都代表切牌制度的本身,就存在很多難以避免的問題。

所以,對於初學者來說,切牌還是少用為妙,但是對於高手又熱衷此道的人來說,不妨把它當作一種玩樂性質,偶而窺探人的內心也能滿足人類的好奇心。
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#1239621 - 2009-09-07 08:19:30 Re: 測運勢 [Re: 一鸣]
一鸣 離線
亢龍有悔
註冊: 2009-06-28
文章數: 724
張貼者: 一鸣

Question:直接占卜
◎底牌是【寶劍5】【正位置↑】◎





Keywords for the Five of Swords Tarot Card Meaning:

Faith==>信念,信任,保證,諾言,約定,信仰,信條

Action==>行動;行為;活動,情節,戰鬥,訴訟

Change==>改變;更改換;交換,互換兌換(錢),換乘(車等)

Strategy==>戰略

Sacrifice==>犧牲

Amputating
Standing firm ==>堅定

Meeting a challenge
Victory by surrender
Choosing a direction ==>選擇方向

Confidence of position==>自信现况


編輯者: 一鸣 (2009-09-07 08:40:58)
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#1241178 - 2009-09-11 22:04:48 Re: 測運勢 [Re: 一鸣]
一鸣 離線
亢龍有悔
註冊: 2009-06-28
文章數: 724
牌太準.不敢測了。

烏鴉

為什麼有人在命理網很久了。
也該会一点。
都不幫人呢?也不學習的呢?


編輯者: 一鸣 (2009-09-11 22:11:39)
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