2001年10月5日15:57:09台灣
女命占問感情運，問事日的前一日分手
有誰要解解看?

看不懂你要問啥？
有沒有確切的問題？
沒有確切的問題,得到的也只是朦朧的答案.

我來猜猜看...

男方提出分手
原因是彼此的物質金錢觀念無法調適
女方母親對這段戀情有意見
女方父親對男方提出分手這件事不滿意



如果以上僥倖猜得不離譜...

男方分手後迷惘,對是否該復合不知如何是好
但是兩人應該還會藕斷絲連
男方對女方在分手後仍會提供物質或金錢的資助


"會不會有結果?"
如果不能好好把問題點都調適過來,
那就只好...繼續拖下去了
時間終將解決一切的問題...

對不起.
亂猜的,如果不準的話.
別生氣,如果冒犯的話.


Kai
p.s.最後要公佈答案哦

這個問題是這樣的.....
某天我在聊天室，有一個人進來了....
我以該人進入的時間起了一個盤來看他/她發生了什麼事，
我以為他/她的工作出了問題....
結果他/她說是的，不過他/她在起盤的前一天才剛分手，
恨死那個對方了，顯然對他/她而言，分手的問題嚴重於工作的問題，
不知道版上諸賢，對這個盤的看法如何?
純粹看有沒有人想練功or討論...:)

瞭了,
圖上命主木星入五宮(戀愛事),
火星衝之, 離相約一度也.

根據問事者言...
你不要傷心唷....

[沒有一點符合]

ps...我也摃了@@大家共勉吧!!

天啊!全錯...

表達一下之前猜測的根據...
對不起,用英文是因為中文術語不太懂...請見諒


1. Question ruler Jupiter in 5th opposites Mars in 11th (5th of 7th), with 1 degree orb.

OK. A significant chart about "breaking-up" is sustained.



2. Question co-ruler Moon in 2nd inconjucts Sun in 7th (the opponent), with 1 degree orb.

OK. To me, it looks like: things (or thoughts) regarding "money & material", between the subject and her opponent, are to be "adjusted".



3. Totally 7 incojuctions in the chart, Sun to Moon, Moon to Part of Fortune, Moon to MC, Mars to Saturn, Juptiter to MC, Sun to Asc, Part of Fortune to Asc.

To me, definitely a chart of ADJUSTMENT. Specially due to the "God's finger" which is formed by co-ruler Moon, ruler Jupiter and MC, is pointing to MC.
Well, if it represents not "the parents" problem, which may possiblely be my mis-interpretation, it then should be a problem regarding "CAREER opposites FAMILY".



4. Saturn, conjucting 4th cusp, opposites MC with 1 degree orb.

OK. I surrender. It's the Career Family problem.



5. Moon, question co-ruler, is soon to perfect its sextile to Jupiter, then to perfect its trine to Mars.
However, Moon between "the two evil", Mars and Saturn, shows little confidence to make a positive outcome; and, the its next new aspect to be formed, is to conjuct deepest Saturn, oppositing MC.

So, according to the above, my prediction was as per in first article: "Staying OK for a while, keeping financially connected, but not for all the way..."

BUT, now I think I was wrong.
I was too much focusing on the EVIL stuff, pay no attention to:
1. After perfect its trine to Mars, Moon will again perfect a "good" aspect, trine to the 7th Venus.
2. Before the conjuction to Saturn, Moon is going change its aspect to Sun, from inconjuction to trine.
3. The Grand Trine, formed by co-ruler Moon, 7th house Venus and 11th house Mars.

So, it will have a GOOD outcome, and a happy ending as well.
(Even if they can not be together anymore, they'll be glad that the breaking-up decision was made.)



可不可以把實際情況告訴我...
拜託!!!

3. Totally 7 incojuctions in the chart, Sun to Moon, Moon to Part of Fortune, Moon to MC, Mars to Saturn, Juptiter to MC, Sun to Asc, Part of Fortune to Asc.

To me, definitely a chart of ADJUSTMENT. Specially due to the "God's finger" which is formed by co-ruler Moon, ruler Jupiter and MC, is pointing to MC.
Well, if it represents not "the parents" problem, which may possiblely be my mis-interpretation, it then should be a problem regarding "CAREER opposites FAMILY".

嗯 ... 我是不看150度的啦....不過，她有工作上的問題...MC...大概指老闆吧!!


So, it will have a GOOD outcome, and a happy ending as well.
(Even if they can not be together anymore, they'll be glad that the breaking-up decision was made.)

雖然說一般還是主張以傳統主宰星來看，不過我還是習慣先看現代行星，
此圖的命主海王星無相位，七主無相位，我一開始就在想...為什麼一個情緒激烈的
事情會沒有相位發生??(ps.小弟實在懶得用150度相位)
於是，我試著看傳統主宰星木星，木星在五宮內，看起來這個盤應該是錯不了了，
和感情是有相關，然而月亮卻和木星呈60度相位...!!
令人震驚的結果，在這個圖中，我不以月亮為命宮的co-ruler，我想應視為五宮主
比較恰當，不過如此一來，問題就大了...
一個不愉快的結果，為何是命主和五宮主成吉相???
就因如此才使我陷入迷惘...
所以才想請諸位幫忙解釋一下囉...

基本上，你解的並無不妥，只是這個例子實在怪得離譜，
so ...take it easy^^

可否弄圖來看看？

先貼上圖 方便觀看

一頁書 90.10.13. 00:17

我還是喜歡 用原有的宮制
所以順便再貼一張圖 也說明自己的想法

我認為顯象如下
1.火木相沖
2.土星與天頂跟冥王相沖
3.土星與冥王.天頂刑7宮金星
4.命宮度 ASC 與冥王.天頂相刑
5.月孛(LILITH)近ASC 進命宮
6.NODE 進入5宮
7.5宮守護星太陽 與火木 相刑 這是引用政餘的看法
若是用政餘的看法 其宮為未宮 宮主為太陰 太陰與火星金星呈120度的合相

目前只想到這裡 尚未加入28星宿
希望有志研究者 幫我以西洋的角度分析上述 我的疑點

一頁書 90.10.13. 01:07

我還是有點不懂問題所在
究竟這horary chart 所問是什麼？

我猜可能是這位女生 心中想問感情的事
但與jojow聊天 卻沒說明 jojow單純的認為是工作上的問題
不料 女孩卻提出感情上的事 (占問的前一天剛分手)
所以jojow很奇怪 才貼上來看看

其實 我就星圖來看 有兩條線對沖
剛好是4 10(工作) 與 5(戀愛) 11宮為相沖
或許是因為太陽在疾厄宮位又為第5宮守護星 加上太陰又為未宮(巨蟹)的守護星
所以她的行為 行動(太陽) 與思緒 情緒(太陰) 的重心皆在感情方面
並非jojow所推測在工作方面吧

我是初學 請指教...

一頁書 90.10.15. 00:17

依我記得, orb的定義多為大同小異:
應該是解釋作相位可容許的誤差值,
相差角度如在orb內,相位成立;
相差角度如在orb外,相位不成立.

至於orb要定多少,應該是見仁見智的問題.

1 degree orb for opposition, Ithink it should be OK.


Kai

In the chart, 7th house ruler Mercury is perigrine in the 8th, while retrograting at late degree in Libra.

If take the 7th house as we Astrologers, then it seems explain why so much confusion had been caused...

We, astrologers, are lost in this question due to the perigrine position of the ruler Mercury. Furthermore, due to its retrogration, our prediction is doomed to be late or out of focus.

這大概就是猜不準的原因吧?!

Kai

A~~~這位苦主有點反覆......
又和好了...
苦主的partner接受國外派出....不過兩人和好了..據說啦!!
嗯..看來星盤說好像沒騙我們...

恭喜他們!

Kai

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